Old Models, New Chaos: Developing Leaders for AI-Driven Change

What do you do when the leadership models that built your organization can't keep pace with the change now facing it?

Traditional change management models were built for a different era. Today’s leaders face complexity that’s faster, messier, and less predictable than any framework anticipated.

Recorded live at ATD26, this episode of the Being Intrepid podcast features Sam Herring, VP and General Manager at Intrepid by VitalSource, in conversation with Karie Willyerd, Head of Strategic Engagements at GP Strategies, about what it takes to prepare leaders for AI-driven change.

A former six-time Chief Learning Officer—including roles at Visa and Sun Microsystems—Karie brings decades of experience navigating major shifts in how organizations develop talent. Together, Sam and Karie explore practical strategies for helping leaders unlearn outdated assumptions, build adaptability, and lead with confidence when there’s no clear playbook.

Catch the full episode below:

In this episode

Dr. Karie Willyerd

Dr. Karie Willyerd is Head of Strategic Customer Engagements for GP Strategies and a six-time Chief Learning Officer whose career spans Visa, SAP, SuccessFactors, Lockheed Martin, and H.J. Heinz. She is the only CLO to lead two organizations to ATD’s #1 global ranking and is a recipient of ATD’s Distinguished Contribution to Talent Development Award.

Episode Details

Old Models, New Chaos: Developing Leaders for AI-Driven Change

On the Being Intrepid podcast

Karie Willyerd joins Sam Herring

August 5, 2026

32 min 37 sec